Monday, May 13, 2013

On palindromic numbers, part two

In my last post on palindromic numbers, I looked at the frequencies of valid & invalid palindromic numbers and found that almost all invalid palindromes are odd. To explore why this might be, I'll now look at the differences between even and odd palindromes. (By this I mean even and odd numbers, \(n\), that have palindromic representations in a base less than \(n - 1\).)

Of evens and odds

Of the 4997 valid even palindromes through 10,000, over 62% have a length of 3 digits and just under 20% have a length of 2 digits. Palindromes of lengths ranging from 4 to 9 comprise the nearly 18% remaining. This is somewhat similar to the odds: just over 70% have length 3, a little less than 14% have length 2, and the bit more than 16% remaining have lengths ranging from 4 to 14. So the odds are spread out a bit more as far as lengths go, but they and the evens are fairly similar in that regard.

What about the frequency of bases? Do the evens have more or less of certain bases or ranges of bases? Well, as far as number of bases, the evens have a slightly higher (a little over 5.5%) diversity of (valid, lowest) bases over the first 10,000 counting numbers. I don't think that's enough to be significant, though (I'd love to be proven wrong in the comments!), so let's look at the frequencies of individual bases:

Frequencies of bases (even numbers ≤ 10,000)
Base # of occurences
2
0
3
159
4
67
5
144
6
89
7
136
8
61
9
95
10
66
11
112
12
68
13
102
14
70
15
101
16
74
17
107
18
97
19
125
20
130
21
155
22
149
23
129
24
112
25
108
26
88
27
79
28
93
29
87
30
84
31
72
32
64
33
69
34
62
35
65
36
59
37
49
38
48
39
53
40
47
41
48
42
43
43
49
44
30
45
41
46
35
47
32
48
29
49
20
50
18
51
35
52
24
53
27
54
20
55
31
56
20
57
32
58
16
59
14
60
15
61–4986
(271 bases)
943
Frequencies of bases (odd numbers ≤ 10,000)
Base # of occurences
2
202
3
39
4
112
5
43
6
139
7
72
8
83
9
35
10
75
11
36
12
87
13
53
14
89
15
63
16
84
17
88
18
117
19
106
20
148
21
150
22
150
23
134
24
125
25
110
26
91
27
88
28
102
29
83
30
84
31
69
32
73
33
58
34
61
35
52
36
58
37
46
38
54
39
51
40
51
41
45
42
45
43
32
44
40
45
37
46
40
47
28
48
34
49
24
50
31
51
21
52
33
53
19
54
20
55
17
56
14
57
21
58
22
59
15
60
22
61–3256
(239 bases)
860

Now here's where it gets fascinating. For the lower bases, the evens have much more odd bases and the odds have much more even bases. (Why do evens have no base-2 palindromes? A binary palindrome would have to end in a '1' — allowing leading zeroes would cause all sorts of problems — and binary numbers that end in '1' are odd.) In general, the larger the base, the lower the frequency, but around base-20, both the evens and odds see an upswing in frequencies of all bases that gradually tapers down to about base-50. It's here that we see a recurrence of the original pattern, albeit at a much smaller scale. (There is also a small uptick at base-28 for both evens and odds, and the high/low pattern makes a brief appearance in the early thirties.)

Can you take me higher?

Obviously, this particular patterning is the result of the limited number set we're working with. Does it continue for larger number groups?

Frequencies of bases (even numbers ≤ 100,000)
Base # of occurences
2
0
3
513
4
166
5
522
6
190
7
451
8
280
9
444
10
457
11
508
12
355
13
415
14
245
15
371
16
163
17
369
18
226
19
358
20
228
21
338
22
235
23
308
24
230
25
303
26
237
27
301
28
293
29
362
30
324
31
381
32
352
33
438
34
382
35
467
36
430
37
484
38
462
39
546
40
528
41
594
42
596
43
679
44
637
45
713
46
706
47
718
48
681
49
636
50
605
51
625
52
565
53
572
54
521
55
550
56
482
57
479
58
445
59
469
60
395
61
410
62
375
63
416
64
358
65
364
66
371
67
363
68
307
69
318
70
325
71
315
72
323
73
273
74
271
75
301
76
281
77
273
78
258
79
267
80
252
81
215
82
239
83
251
84
206
85
232
86
202
87
203
88
231
89
209
90
200
91
206
92
165
93
180
94
176
95
186
96
192
97
157
98
153
99
174
100
163
101–49,990
(1831 bases)
14,306
Frequencies of bases (odd numbers ≤ 100,000)
Base # of occurences
2
642
3
135
4
399
5
241
6
443
7
128
8
290
9
290
10
552
11
339
12
398
13
240
14
343
15
156
16
280
17
113
18
237
19
106
20
249
21
150
22
260
23
176
24
266
25
208
26
285
27
222
28
343
29
281
30
365
31
311
32
337
33
360
34
428
35
401
36
470
37
455
38
544
39
516
40
585
41
547
42
627
43
617
44
690
45
676
46
755
47
710
48
709
49
646
50
642
51
596
52
587
53
549
54
549
55
524
56
516
57
498
58
480
59
438
60
452
61
438
62
436
63
394
64
336
65
378
66
370
67
348
68
366
69
318
70
353
71
299
72
346
73
305
74
295
75
293
76
273
77
260
78
273
79
248
80
276
81
207
82
234
83
220
84
237
85
241
86
230
87
204
88
214
89
185
90
205
91
202
92
205
93
179
94
183
95
181
96
177
97
170
98
184
99
153
100
163
101–32,910
(1596 bases)
13,869

It seems so. (With one order-of-magnitude increase, at least.)

More pointedly, the early alternating pattern continues, as does the overall swelling later and the return to the alternating pattern. But— there are some hiccups in the alternating pattern now, the swelling occurs later (and is now responsible for the highest frequencies), and the later alternation is less pronounced.

I won't check higher numbers because it takes quite some time to compute these numbers (at least with the quick script I wrote for the task, and I don't wish to spend the time to see if I can make a faster program). However, if the trends I see continue, it looks like the alternating pattern becomes most significant as the upper number limit approaches infinity. (I base this on the alternations continuing mostly unhindered and the swelling moving into higher ranges. As we approach an infinite upper bound, it would follow that the swelling would approach infinity as well.) So why are even numbers likely to have their lowest-base palindrome be in an odd base and vice-versa for the odds?

I don't have an answer to that question. I'd be interested if any readers did. In the meantime, I'll look at something I noticed about one of my first lists: the invalid palindromes. For a refresher, let's look at those, this time through 10,000:

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 6
  • 11
  • 19
  • 47
  • 53
  • 79
  • 103
  • 137
  • 139
  • 149
  • 163
  • 167
  • 179
  • 223
  • 263
  • 269
  • 283
  • 293
  • 311
  • 317
  • 347
  • 359
  • 367
  • 389
  • 439
  • 491
  • 563
  • 569
  • 593
  • 607
  • 659
  • 739
  • 827
  • 853
  • 877
  • 977
  • 983
  • 997
  • 1019
  • 1049
  • 1061
  • 1187
  • 1213
  • 1237
  • 1367
  • 1433
  • 1439
  • 1447
  • 1459
  • 1511
  • 1553
  • 1579
  • 1669
  • 1709
  • 1753
  • 1759
  • 1907
  • 1949
  • 1993
  • 1997
  • 2011
  • 2063
  • 2087
  • 2099
  • 2111
  • 2137
  • 2179
  • 2207
  • 2287
  • 2309
  • 2339
  • 2417
  • 2459
  • 2503
  • 2657
  • 2677
  • 2683
  • 2693
  • 2713
  • 2749
  • 2897
  • 2963
  • 3023
  • 3089
  • 3119
  • 3229
  • 3253
  • 3259
  • 3323
  • 3371
  • 3407
  • 3449
  • 3547
  • 3559
  • 3583
  • 3623
  • 3643
  • 3833
  • 3847
  • 4007
  • 4073
  • 4091
  • 4099
  • 4139
  • 4157
  • 4211
  • 4283
  • 4337
  • 4339
  • 4349
  • 4391
  • 4463
  • 4523
  • 4549
  • 4643
  • 4679
  • 4729
  • 4787
  • 4871
  • 4909
  • 4919
  • 4933
  • 5011
  • 5021
  • 5039
  • 5059
  • 5099
  • 5179
  • 5231
  • 5297
  • 5303
  • 5309
  • 5351
  • 5387
  • 5417
  • 5431
  • 5471
  • 5503
  • 5527
  • 5653
  • 5693
  • 5711
  • 5791
  • 5827
  • 5839
  • 5939
  • 6047
  • 6067
  • 6079
  • 6089
  • 6131
  • 6199
  • 6229
  • 6247
  • 6269
  • 6277
  • 6311
  • 6343
  • 6359
  • 6389
  • 6551
  • 6599
  • 6653
  • 6793
  • 6871
  • 6947
  • 6983
  • 6991
  • 7019
  • 7079
  • 7159
  • 7213
  • 7247
  • 7283
  • 7433
  • 7487
  • 7691
  • 7817
  • 7877
  • 7949
  • 7963
  • 8017
  • 8069
  • 8089
  • 8123
  • 8147
  • 8221
  • 8243
  • 8287
  • 8291
  • 8293
  • 8423
  • 8539
  • 8573
  • 8669
  • 8699
  • 8783
  • 8863
  • 8941
  • 9043
  • 9059
  • 9067
  • 9173
  • 9209
  • 9227
  • 9277
  • 9337
  • 9341
  • 9377
  • 9419
  • 9421
  • 9533
  • 9587
  • 9643
  • 9689
  • 9739
  • 9781
  • 9887

I've highlighted the non-prime numbers. There are only three: 1, 4 and 6. Aha! So, not only are all invalid palindromes above 6 odd, they are all prime as well! (Assuming this continues beyond 10,000. I have no proof it does, but so far it works.)

Roadblocks

Unfortunately, I have no idea where to go with this information. I can't see any patterns in the primes that do not have valid palindromes vs. those that do. Moreover, I have no clue of the mechanics behind a number having a palindrome in a particular base over another. We have some clues, but no full set of numbers that do or do not have valid palindromes. Hmm….

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